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Living History
On March 1, 2007, the BCOC had an opportunity to listen to trials and triumphs of three retired veteran African-American fire service professionals. Listed below are some excerpts of interviews with Arnett “The Rookie” Hartsfield, Capt. Vincent Julius, and Chief Monroe Smith. You may listen just by
clicking the person’s name.

From Left to Right: Chief Monroe Smith (retired Compton Fire Department, CA), Arnett Hartsfield "The Rookie" (LA
City Fire Department), Capt. Vincent Julius (retired FDNY), and Chief Robert Osby (retired
Oceanside Fire Department).
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